50cc chinese mopeds

 

05/12/2010

 

50cc chinese mopeds Filed under: Mopeds — master @ 3:15 pm

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  1. Scooter Assembly

    If you are located in CA, and you are picking up from our retail store, you can choose to have your scooter fully assembled and inspected by our trained mechanics. If you order the scooter through our website, you’ll have some work to do. It will arrive in a steel cage inside a cardboard box.

    First remove the cardboard box. This is the easy part! Then you’ll need to take apart the steel cage by removing all the nuts and bolts holding it together. At some point in the process you may need a second person to help you by holding the scooter upright while you remove the last few bolts and possibly the bailing wire used to secure the scooter to the base of the cage. Most of the scooters we carry already have both wheels attached, you can roll it out of the case and set it on the center stand.

    Now you can look for “assembly instructions”, which with the average Chinese scooter will be one sheet of paper which says something like “attach the rear view mirrors, install the battery, etc.”. You may have to use some ingenuity to figure out how to do all this, but it shouldn’t be beyond the capabilities of any amateur home mechanic. It may help if you have a decent socket set, screwdriver set and set of metric wrenches since the supplied “tool kit” usually leaves much to be desired.

    Batteries are typically shipped “dry” with the acid in a separate container. You have to add the acid to the battery and leave it for 30 minutes of so before using it. After this it shouldn’t need to be charged to start the scooter.

    Once you have all the parts attached (and that will include at least mirrors, seat, rear carrier, battery and floor mats), and you’ve waited about 30 minutes after adding acid to the battery, you’ll be ready to start the scooter.

    If you just put fuel in the tank, you may have to crank it quite a few times before it starts since the fuel has to get to the carburetor and fill the float chamber before gas gets to the engine. You can prime the carburetor by disconnecting the fuel hose from the vacuum valve and connecting it directly to a small funnel and adding a little gas, then reconnecting the fuel line to the valve and adding fuel to the tank. However if you don’t know what you’re doing, just try to follow whatever instruction came with the scooter. Use premium gas. Most scooters seem to be setup to run on 91 octane fuel.

    The final point of assembly is to check everything. Check the tire pressures, check that every bolt and nut you can see is tight, especially the ones holding the exhaust and muffler – and the wheels! Look around for lose wires or rubber hoses that don’t seem to be attached to anything.

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    How Much does a Scooter Cost?

    Japanese and Italian scooters which are sold through authorized dealers, the price goes up significantly. For a 50cc scooter expect to pay around $3300 for something like a Vespa LX 50, which is a “classic” small scooter or something like $3000 for an Aprilia SR50 (fuel injected two-stroke) which is a little more sleek and modern looking. The classic Honda Metropolitan 50cc sells for around $2000.

    Going up to a 250cc, for something like an Aprilia SportCity 250 expect to pay around $4600, or $5400 for a Honda Helix. If you go to larger scooters like the Honda Siver Wing (580cc) you’ll pay $8100 ($8600 with true APS braking). The 400cc Yamaha Majesty sells for around $6100 and the Suzuki Bergman 650 will cost you $9000.
    How fast do Scooters go?

    Small 50cc scooters (“Mopeds”) are good for about 30 mph, maybe 35 mph in some states without speed restrictions. They will just about keep up with urban traffic, but you have to ride them WOT (Wide Open Throttle) do to that. This can be good for novices and young riders because in most of states the rider does not need a motorcycle license to operate a 50cc less scooter, but the inability to keep up with faster traffic can sometimes be a hazard as cars try to “squeeze” past you when there really isn’t room.

    150cc Chinese scooter. It might look fast, but it’s not really very happy above 60 mph. Mid sized 150cc scooters are good for 55-65 mph, though with a long enough run at it they may get up to 65+mph, especially if there’s a tail wind or slight downhill grade. 45-50mph is enough to keep up with most urban and suburban traffic, though it’s really not enough to flow with the traffic on a freeway, where speeds of 65-75mph are more normal. We?ˉd certainly recommend a 150cc scooter over a 50cc scooter for commuting unless you live in Manhattan. Most of the 150cc scooters cruise quite comfortably at 45-50mph.

    If you want a high speed machine, you would probably be better off with a motorcycle.? 250cc scooters are just about OK for freeway use and should be able to cruise at 60mph and get up to speeds of 70mph or more if pushed. We wouldn’t recommend riding anything less than a 250cc scooter on the freeway, you might want to check on our 300cc motorcycle that is listed on our website.

    What MPG Does a Scooter Get?

    This depends mostly on the engine size. The smallest engines are typically 49cc and they can give up to 90 mpg, depending on what type of riding you do and how much you weigh. Obviously if you weight 300lbs and do mostly short “stop and go” trips you’ll get a lower mileage than if you weight 100lbs and travel mostly on long trips at modest speeds. At the extreme, we’ve seen figures of 110-120 mpg for 50c scooters when the rider was trying their best to drive as economically as possible.

    150cc scooters aren’t quite as frugal, but we’ve seen reports of up to 85mpg. With the larger engine sizes (300cc) you should still get around 70 mpg from a scooter traveling at legal highway speeds. That’s about the same as a Toyota Prius Hybrid, but the scooter will be a lot more fun!

    Scooter Wheel & Tire Size

    Motor Scooter wheel size varies from a minimum of about 10″ to a maximum of around 16″. Most are either 12″ or 13″. This is the size of the metal wheel itself and doesn’t include the tire. The measurements is the diameter of the wheel rims The tire may add 5″ or 6″ to the diameter. My scooter has 13″ wheels (rims), but the tire measures about 19″ across in total.

    So what are the advantages and disadvantages of different sized wheels?

    Well, the smaller the wheel the more maneuverable the scooter can be. The smaller wheel has less of a gyroscopic effect making it somewhat easier to turn (though this also depends a lot on steering geometry). So in general, scooters are more maneuverable than motorcycles (which have larger wheels). The converse of this is that larger wheels may give better stability at speed.

    The downside of smaller wheels is that they don’t roll over obstructions in the road as well. Just think of a pothole in the road. If it’s a large hole and a small wheel, the wheel could fall into it! Even if it’s a raised obstruction like a tree branch or a curb, a larger wheel will roll over it with less effort than a small wheel. That’s one reason why off-road trucks often have monster wheels. When you’re driving over rocks a big wheel makes life easier. Similarly, if you’re riding over roads filled with potholes (for example New York City!), you’ll value larger wheels.

    While a few scooters have 16″ wheels (e.g. MC_X1507) and a few have 10″ wheels (e.g. MC-U1504), most scooters have a 12″ or 13″ wheel which is a reasonable compromise between maneuverability and stability.

    Scooter tires come in all sizes of course, with a typical 13″ wheel scooter tire having a designation something like “130/60-13″. The “13″ refers to the wheel rim diameter. The “130/60″ part indicates that the width of the tread is 130mm (5.1″) and that the tire has an aspect ratio of 0.60 (or 60%), which means that the sidewall height is 60% of the width of the tire. Some tires are designed for front wheel use, some for rear wheel use and some can be used on either wheel. Though most tires today are tubeless, there may still be a few tires which require an inner tube, especially on older scooters.

    The tread pattern may be directional, meaning that it has to be mounted the correct way around to perform properly and there should be an arrow on the sidewall which shows which way the tire should rotate. You may also see a speed designation on some tires between the “130/60″ and “13″. This is a letter which runs from “J” to “Y”. “J” indicates the tire is safe to use up to 62mph, “L” is up to 75mph, “N” is up to 87mph, “P” is up to 93mph and “S” is up to 103mph. You probably won’t be going any faster than that on a scooter. However there is a “W” designation shows the tire is safe up to 168mph. As far as I know there are no “W” rated scooter tires! Most scooter tires will be priced in the $55-$85 region.

    Comment by master — 05/12/2010 @ 3:15 pm

  2. If the scooter doesn’t turn over when you’ve done all the required operations, there’s an electrical problem with the battery. Make sure the battery is charged. If it is, make sure the fuse hasn’t blown. If it hasn’t, check to see if you are getting voltage to the starter motor terminals. If you are, the starter motor is likely defective. Many scooters have a kick start (see your manual). If the battery is OK and the starter motor doesn’t work, try kick starting it. It’s usually not too hard. My scooter usually starts OK on the 2nd or 3rd kick.

    If the scooter does turn over but still doesn’t start you have to check for a spark and make sure gas is getting to the engine. To check for a spark, remove the spark plug from the cylinder, hold the tip of the plug against the cylinder head and crank the engine. You should see a spark across the gap. If you don’t, there’s a problem with the ignition. Could be a faulty coil or electronic ignition module which will have to be replaced, or it could just be a lose wire.

    If you do have a spark, you need to check the gas. Make sure there is gas in the tank first! If there is you need to check the fuel valve. Most scooters use a gravity fuel feed by locating the fuel tank higher than the carburetor. The fuel usually then flows through filter and then through a vacuum operated valve. The valve has three hoses connected to it. One if from the fuel tank and is for the gas going in, one is connected to the carburetor and is for the gas coming out and one goes to the engine manifold which provides a vacuum. If you disconnect the hose from the carburetor, fuel should run out when you crank the engine (be careful to catch the gas if you do this and don’t do it with a hot engine). If you don’t see gas the fuel valve may be faulty. You can try applying a vacuum to the control port of the valve and see if the fuel flows. Sucking on the line is one way to do this (but make sure it’s the vacuum line, not the gas line if you try this!).

    If you are getting a spark and you are getting gas to the carburetor and the engine is turning over on the starter OK, it’s possible that the electrically operated automatic choke has failed. It’s supposed to operate when the engine is cold, but if it’s stuck or burned out, the mixture will be weak and the scooter probably won’t start. The automatic choke is usually a black cylindrical object attached to the carburetor with a couple of wires coming out of it as shown on the left. It’s the only electrical powered component attached to the carburetor, so it’s usually not hard to spot. If you have a voltmeter you can measure the resistance across the leads of the choke. It should be somewhere in the region of around 10 or 20 ohms. If it’s an open circuit, it’s burned out and will need to be replaced. If it seems to be OK it may be stuck, or the wiring to it may have a problem. Check to see that it’s getting voltage.

    It’s also possible that there is a problem with the carburetor and if so you may need to remove it and clean it out. If the scooter has been sitting for a few months with gas in the carburetor, the gas may have evaporated and left a sticky “gum” behind that will prevent the carburetor from working properly and which must be removed.

    If the automatic choke is OK, the starter cranks the engine, there’s gas and there’s a spark then there may be an engine problem. You need to check the cylinder compression. You need a compression tester to do this. It screws in instead of the spark plug and measures cylinder pressure. When you crank the engine you should see a reading of around 150 psi or more. If it’s 100 psi or less there’s likely and engine problem (bad valve, bad piston, failed piston rings) which will need the engine taken apart to find.
    Probably the most common problems are a dead battery or carburetor problems due to bad adjustment or build up of gummy deposits. Carburetor problems usually come on slowly though. If a scooter is OK one day and refuses to start the next day, I’d first suspect an electrical problem.

    Comment by master — 05/12/2010 @ 3:15 pm

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