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Scooter Repair
So you buy a scooter and something breaks. Who is going to fix it? Well, if you’ve bough in person from our retail store in California,? we have access to parts, shop manuals and we will have mechanics trained to fix your scooter. All you have to do is bring them in.
But what if you are located outside of California, we have a few suggestions for you. You can try contacting local motorcycle (or better still, scooter) repair shops. If they are not very enthusiastic about working on a Chinese scooter, no worry! Have them contact our tech support department directly. We will make sure they will have the easy access to our spare parts and the technical support they need. Remember, we are the only company who actually carries all common parts in stock.
150cc engine and transmission as used in many Chinese scooters
You might also get some help from a lawn mower repair shop. They are used to working on small engines and the engine in a scooter isn’t all that different from the engine in a lawn mower. You can also try snowmobile and ATV repair shops.
CVT (transmission) belt. Price ~ $40. Belt life anywhere from 2500 to 10,000 miles
It’s not a bad idea to keep a few spares (such as a spare spark plug and CVT belt) on hand, just in case you need them (and eventually, you will). It’s a good idea to remove the CVT cover on your new scooter and read the number on the belt BEFORE you need to change it. Belt sizes vary, even on the same nominal scooter “model” and by the time it fails, the size markings may have worn off! The belt size is usually three numbers such as “835-20-30″. This would mean the belt is 835mm long, 20mm wide and has a cross section with a 30?? bevel angle.
The best way to avoid needing repairs is regular maintenance, which means changing the oil regularly, changing the fuel filter and spark plug at the proper intervals, checking the CVT belt and air filter, checking the tires and going around the scooter at least once a month and making sure that all the bolts are tight (especially the bolts holding the muffler on). Use the recommended grade of gas (usually higher than 90 octane for most Chinese scooters) and add fuel stabilizer if the scooter isn’t going to be driven for a while.
Though you won’t find individual repair manuals for every different Chinese scooter, they are all pretty similar and many use the same engines and transmission parts.. There are a couple of books which may help. The Haynes guide is probably the best general reference for the repair of “generic” (i.e. Chinese) scooters. The “Complete Idiot’s Guide to Motor Scooters” is pretty basic and really doesn’t give much detailed information, though it’s not a bad introduction to scooters if you really know nothing at all about them.
Troubleshooting
My Scooter Won t Start
To start a scooter needs three things:
Gas
A spark
Cylinder compression
If your scooter won’t start it due to one of the above not being present. Before you start troubleshooting, make sure there is gas in the tank by actually looking into it. Don’t just trust the gas gauge!
Most scooters have four things that need to be done before they can be started with the electric starter:
The ignition has to be turned on
The kill switch (usually near the right grip) has to be in the “on” position
The rear (left) brake lever has to be squeezed.
The starter button must be pressed.
Some scooters may have other interlocks on the front brake or the center stand. Check your owner’s manual to make sure that you are doing all you need to?? complete the electrical circuit which enables it to start.
If the scooter doesn’t turn over when you’ve done all the required operations, there’s an electrical problem with the battery. Make sure the battery is charged. If it is, make sure the fuse hasn’t blown. If it hasn’t, check to see if you are getting voltage to the starter motor terminals. If you are, the starter motor is likely defective. Many scooters have a kick start (see your manual). If the battery is OK and the starter motor doesn’t work, try kick starting it. It’s usually not too hard. My scooter usually starts OK on the 2nd or 3rd kick.
If the scooter does turn over but still doesn’t start you have to check for a spark and make sure gas is getting to the engine. To check for a spark, remove the spark plug from the cylinder, hold the tip of the plug against the cylinder head and crank the engine. You should see a spark across the gap. If you don’t, there’s a problem with the ignition. Could be a faulty coil or electronic ignition module which will have to be replaced, or it could just be a lose wire.
If you do have a spark, you need to check the gas. Make sure there is gas in the tank first! If there is you need to check the fuel valve. Most scooters use a gravity fuel feed by locating the fuel tank higher than the carburetor. The fuel usually then flows through filter and then through a vacuum operated valve. The valve has three hoses connected to it. One if from the fuel tank and is for the gas going in, one is connected to the carburetor and is for the gas coming out and one goes to the engine manifold which provides a vacuum. If you disconnect the hose from the carburetor, fuel should run out when you crank the engine (be careful to catch the gas if you do this and don’t do it with a hot engine). If you don’t see gas the fuel valve may be faulty. You can try applying a vacuum to the control port of the valve and see if the fuel flows. Sucking on the line is one way to do this (but make sure it’s the vacuum line, not the gas line if you try this!).
If you are getting a spark and you are getting gas to the carburetor and the engine is turning over on the starter OK, it’s possible that the electrically operated automatic choke has failed. It’s supposed to operate when the engine is cold, but if it’s stuck or burned out, the mixture will be weak and the scooter probably won’t start. The automatic choke is usually a black cylindrical object attached to the carburetor with a couple of wires coming out of it as shown on the left. It’s the only electrical powered component attached to the carburetor, so it’s usually not hard to spot. If you have a voltmeter you can measure the resistance across the leads of the choke. It should be somewhere in the region of around 10 or 20 ohms. If it’s an open circuit, it’s burned out and will need to be replaced. If it seems to be OK it may be stuck, or the wiring to it may have a problem. Check to see that it’s getting voltage.
It’s also possible that there is a problem with the carburetor and if so you may need to remove it and clean it out. If the scooter has been sitting for a few months with gas in the carburetor, the gas may have evaporated and left a sticky “gum” behind that will prevent the carburetor from working properly and which must be removed.
If the automatic choke is OK, the starter cranks the engine, there’s gas and there’s a spark then there may be an engine problem. You need to check the cylinder compression. You need a compression tester to do this. It screws in instead of the spark plug and measures cylinder pressure. When you crank the engine you should see a reading of around 150 psi or more. If it’s 100 psi or less there’s likely and engine problem (bad valve, bad piston, failed piston rings) which will need the engine taken apart to find.
Probably the most common problems are a dead battery or carburetor problems due to bad adjustment or build up of gummy deposits. Carburetor problems usually come on slowly though. If a scooter is OK one day and refuses to start the next day, I’d first suspect an electrical problem.
Comment by master — 05/12/2010 @ 3:15 pm
Scooter Assembly
If you are located in CA, and you are picking up from our retail store, you can choose to have your scooter fully assembled and inspected by our trained mechanics. If you order the scooter through our website, you’ll have some work to do. It will arrive in a steel cage inside a cardboard box.
First remove the cardboard box. This is the easy part! Then you’ll need to take apart the steel cage by removing all the nuts and bolts holding it together. At some point in the process you may need a second person to help you by holding the scooter upright while you remove the last few bolts and possibly the bailing wire used to secure the scooter to the base of the cage. Most of the scooters we carry already have both wheels attached, you can roll it out of the case and set it on the center stand.
Now you can look for “assembly instructions”, which with the average Chinese scooter will be one sheet of paper which says something like “attach the rear view mirrors, install the battery, etc.”. You may have to use some ingenuity to figure out how to do all this, but it shouldn’t be beyond the capabilities of any amateur home mechanic. It may help if you have a decent socket set, screwdriver set and set of metric wrenches since the supplied “tool kit” usually leaves much to be desired.
Batteries are typically shipped “dry” with the acid in a separate container. You have to add the acid to the battery and leave it for 30 minutes of so before using it. After this it shouldn’t need to be charged to start the scooter.
Once you have all the parts attached (and that will include at least mirrors, seat, rear carrier, battery and floor mats), and you’ve waited about 30 minutes after adding acid to the battery, you’ll be ready to start the scooter.
If you just put fuel in the tank, you may have to crank it quite a few times before it starts since the fuel has to get to the carburetor and fill the float chamber before gas gets to the engine. You can prime the carburetor by disconnecting the fuel hose from the vacuum valve and connecting it directly to a small funnel and adding a little gas, then reconnecting the fuel line to the valve and adding fuel to the tank. However if you don’t know what you’re doing, just try to follow whatever instruction came with the scooter. Use premium gas. Most scooters seem to be setup to run on 91 octane fuel.
The final point of assembly is to check everything. Check the tire pressures, check that every bolt and nut you can see is tight, especially the ones holding the exhaust and muffler – and the wheels! Look around for lose wires or rubber hoses that don’t seem to be attached to anything.
Comment by master — 05/12/2010 @ 3:15 pm
How Much does a Scooter Cost?
Japanese and Italian scooters which are sold through authorized dealers, the price goes up significantly. For a 50cc scooter expect to pay around $3300 for something like a Vespa LX 50, which is a “classic” small scooter or something like $3000 for an Aprilia SR50 (fuel injected two-stroke) which is a little more sleek and modern looking. The classic Honda Metropolitan 50cc sells for around $2000.
Going up to a 250cc, for something like an Aprilia SportCity 250 expect to pay around $4600, or $5400 for a Honda Helix. If you go to larger scooters like the Honda Siver Wing (580cc) you’ll pay $8100 ($8600 with true APS braking). The 400cc Yamaha Majesty sells for around $6100 and the Suzuki Bergman 650 will cost you $9000.
How fast do Scooters go?
Comment by master — 05/12/2010 @ 3:15 pm
Holla for the post.
Comment by Drip feed links — 12/12/2010 @ 8:46 pm